Sara released her hold on Jordan so he could walk out onto the table. He hated how loose and free he could move after Sara would pet him. He wanted it to be uncomfortable and something he didn’t like. So, the fact it was relaxing annoyed him to no end. Even now he could never remember a time in his life when he had a greater range of motion.
It was then Kelli had walked over to Jordan. As he looked over at her the name Jelli rang in his head. He looked back at Sara briefly scoffed at any notion that Kelli wanted anything more to do with him than just be friends. Like him, this was probably the first little relationship she had been a part of.
“So, what is up with the petting? Does she actually think of you as her pet?” Kelli asked with a sincerity that told him she was just genuinely curious.
“Well, Sara views underbreds like us as lesser being not equal to her or Kayla. She’s nice about it and has welcomed me into her family but my status in her eyes is what she calls a pet person. It’s like a station between pet and person. As she recognizes underbreds as smarter than most animals, yet they are reliant on people to survive. So, the symbiotic relationship of a domesticated underbred and a person in her eyes dictates us as lesser.” Jordan said explaining what he had observed and understood.
“If she thinks Kayla is somehow above me,” Kelli said interrupting her own thought. “That’s just preposterous. It’s a disability or a handicap. We’re just height challenged.” Kayla said
“I get what you are saying. I thought the same thing at first. But I have to admit I do have a certain reliance on Sara. It’s doubtful I could survive independently. The temperature issues, the rain issues, the predator issues, all would coalesce into a shortened lifespan. Plus, what’s the alternative? Starting over living as some kind of wild little off the land constructing rudimentary buildings in some kind of strange little based society away from the tallies. “Jordan said.
“I call them Biggles, but mostly because it bothers Kayla. I do see your point. In my eyes nothing has changed but my size and while I now have a certain dependency on Kayla. I still have things I want to do and achieve in my life.” Kelli said.
“That’s easy for you to say as Kayla seems to defer to you because you had a pre-established order amongst you two. It’s like my neighbor’s dog. They had two dogs, a smaller dog I think it was yorkie or some similar breed and a lab. Well when they were younger the two got into a fight and Yorkie won. So as the two got older and now this lab was much bigger it still deferred to the yorkie because they had fought, and the lab lost. You and your sister seem to be in a similar boat. Because you are the older sister and grew up that way for years. You had already asserted a level of dominance over Kayla which she defers to because she always has. I can’t see your tactics working with Sara.” Jordan said.
“I guess we will find out on Saturday. As I will not be treated like some kind of pet by her.” Kelli said as Jordan looked over at her skeptically.
1) Clash between Sara and Kelli could be interesting.
2) I’m Surprised Jordan didn’t tell Kelli about how good his petting feels, it’d likely make it seem less weird to her if he was like “it helps me loosen up and relaxes her” or words to that effect.
3) Jordan saying what I’ve said about Kelli and Kayla is vindicating.
4) I think Kelli’s right about it just being a disability, it’s sad that Jordan is willing to just accept that he’s a lesser being, though that is something a disturbingly high number of disabled people feel.
5) Jordan is highly reliant on Sara, but I think at the same time she’s actively taken ways he could still be self-reliant away from him.
6) “tallie” vs “biggles” that’s adorable, I wonder if Kelli leant that one in the facility.
7) I’ll acknowledge that Sara could have been meaner about it, but it rubs me the wrong way with Jordan saying “she was nice about it”.
8) is that beanieless Kayla in the background or a random student?
2) I’m curious why he didn’t mention the science behind it either. With the nervous system changing. I wonder why Kayla/Kelli aren’t already doing that since its something taught in the guardian classes?
4) Jordan makes some obvious points but I stand by the Kelli mentality of its just a height handicap. Yes biologically there are some differences but We also don’t call modern day people with dwarfism “lesser than”. Let alone somebody bound to a wheel chair. Its just different levels of dependence.
Another term called “invalid” comes to mind but honestly I think Little’s in this story are more capable than a paraplegic. The whole pet thing, and giving them commands is ridiculous, but at least some people in the story feel the same. Glad there’s a little rights movement at least.
7) She was absolutely insincere about his predicament from the beginning and tried to rush things. Then backpedal with nothing but excuses, mental games, and “training” to hide behind. Only until recently has she started to level with him slightly. Things of course have to go at her pace and her way.
2) I don’t think Jordan understands the science behind it enough to bring it up.
I doubt Kayla would pet Kelli without her consent, and even if it was in the guardianship classes, it may still be an awkward thing to offer to her sister. There’s also a possibility that since Kayla is as skilled at little handling as Sara she simply wouldn’t want to risk accidentally hurting Kelli with slightly off amount of pressure.
4) yeah, Kelli’s makes infinitely more sense no .after how you slice it. I like your comparison to dwarfs that wasn’t something I thought of, and Invalid is actually something littles are considered in this universe.
7) yeah, that’s why it feels off to me, I get that Jordan may not realise the lengths her mistreatment has gone to, but her “being nice about it” was mostly lies and manipulation more than genuine kindness. Until she got impatient at 251 and forced him under threat of torture to “accept” it.
2) you are correct. Kelli won’t even climb onto Kayla’s hand when she puts it down. Kayla has to ask her. Kelli definitely wouldn’t let Kayla pet her.
4) I think Kelli only makes sense if you apply the constructs of our world onto theirs which isn’t fair. As there world history isn’t our world history. There experiences and social constructs aren’t ours.
It’s very much similar to how as Americans my people get a wrap for going places and expecting them to be like America. They expect those same ideals and values, and such where the culture, the country, and such that you are in has its own values, its own ideals. its own history in which things are done becuase of.
This world is very much the same. So while Kelli has more views that relate to views that are present in this world. I don’t think it makes her views necessarily right for that world. As to say that invalidates their world, their history, their social constructs, their beliefs. Even if their beliefs and what they think is wrong based on our worlds beliefs.
4) People with modern day dwarfism also though aren’t in a constant every moment battle for survival if they are left alone. They aren’t concerned a bug or insect will kill them, or its to hot or to cold exist, if the sun heated up the cement to much, if a bird is hungry and will just swoop down and grab them.
people with dwarfism are capable getting food for themselves where there is a degree of doubt that a littles in general would be able to independently secure enough food to survive through various seasons and conditions.
The levels of dependency aren’t really the same. As the homo parvus species are a species that most likely would become existent without the direct invervention of man where a person with dwarfism or a species of humans all have dwarfism would still be able to survive without intervention from anyone else.
1) it has potential.
2) that would be alot for Jordan. He probably could have went into more depth but I don’t think Jordan knows if it’s universal thing or it just feels good to him.
3) yeah, you had similar thoughts to Jordan.
4) There is a degree of logic to both arguments. But where I think the it’s like being handicapped breaks down is littles need more then just a reasonable accommodation to do the task. A little in straight up unable to do the same task without an unreasonable amount of work that can only be justified by high cost that prices most people out.
As could you design a computer a monkey could use? Probably but the amount of money, time, and effort make it unreasonable.
Plus you have littles that have to be actively defended from other predators as they don’t have a natural way to fight back. They would just be killed.
The level of dependency and burden placed is greater than just someone who is handicapped.
5) she also had provided ways for him to be self sufficient like his little bathroom.
6) she just made it up and it bothered Kayla so it stuck
7) I love that the Sara compliment from Jordan bothers you.
8) no Kayla is sitting directly next to Sara. That’s just another random girl.
2) I do think when Sara explained it to him she said it was a little experience not a Jordy experience.
4) That’s where you need to consider different levels of handicap, as bad as smallara is I’d actually prefer it to being in an iron lung or similarly immobilising disabilities. Yes littles are incapable of certain tasks but that’s true of all disabilities.
I don’t believe designing something for a little and designing something for a monkey are comparable as monkeys are actually animals and lesser beings while littles are only pretend animals and lessee brings.
That’s true but the option remains to build them safe places to stay, Sara was literally able to do such with crap sge had lying around her room.
That depends on the handicap
5) what she’s provided is greatly outweighed by what she’s denied him.
6) That’s very sisterly
7) Yeah, it’s annoying that he never holds her accountable for her misdeeds or even tries, then goes ahead to praise her.
2) She definitely did say it was a little experience. But, it doesn’t mean Jordan understands how it works fully. He also is clearly a bit embarrassed about it. So he could also not be wanting to fully talk about it yet. As he hasn’t accepted fully that he likes it.
4) I think it’s complicated overall. As you say, monkeys are actual lesser beings, and littles are pretend lesser beings.
However, if you are living in a world where both are looked at as lesser beings, both could be viewed as a waste of time and resources.
As it’s more about how it’s viewed within the constructs of the smallara world than how it’s viewed within the constructs of our world.
As its not like Sara’s views are in anyway controversial in her world.
6) It is most certainly something sisters would do to each other.
7) I think it’s partly because he isn’t as offended by them as you would be.
And the plot thickness. I can see both sides but Kelli is going to understand more once she’s out and about more I think
Things are still new to her. that is true
In the great words of a great man in the Godzilla movie “let them fight!!!!” Good god I’m hyped this is why I love Kelli so much she a very stubborn person more so than Jordan I kinda hope it ends in a draw so every time we see Kelli and Sara together it gets the sense of rivalry and respect in a way I don’t know how to describe it but either way I’m excited for this weekend
So, you’re suggesting Kelli may earn Sara’s respect the same way Sara earnt Maisy’s? That would be interesting but, I doubt that would work quite the same as Maisy and Sara were both biggles on similar levels, where as Sara will only ever see kelli as an Underbred and if she stands up for herself it would likely make Sara lose respect for her as she’d find it annoying and like Kelli “doesn’t know her place”.
Fair point I guess I’ll like to see a bit of draw between the two at least because on one hand I don’t want Sara to completely change Kelli into just accepting she lesser like Jordan slightly has but I’ll leave that to him being an introvert but I love Kelli view of her situation and honestly would love to see Sara and Kelli butting heads here and there a bit of a cat fight you can call it lol
The other factor is that depending on Kelli’s actions Sara could stop bringing Jordan around around her. Even if she is still friends with Kayla Jordan could just be unavailable for playdates because of working at the theater, doing a stream, babysitting dayton, doing chores around the house, etc.
Dang you right on that point Dang it I just don’t know what to feel when it gets to that point in the story
This is gonna be interesting. I like how Kelli is willing to stand up to Sara and maintain her dignity, unlike Jordan who seems to be resigned to the whole situation.
Yeah Jordan has some different thoughts about things then Kelli does or is more accepting of the situation at least.
I hope dynamic between Kelli and Kaya stays like this. It js rare to have the tiny have any respect or control over the “Owner”. Kelli will learn will eventually learn how others truly see underbreds. All the more reason I want to see the sisters keep this unique relationship and have it explored more down the line.