“So just so we’re clear,” Madison said, stopping at the bottom of the stairs, “you’re backing me. Dad comes to me, and I’m the one in charge.”
McKenzie gave her a look. Not annoyed. Not surprised. Just… you’re doing this right now?
“Madison,” she said, a little amused, a little tired, “you’re in charge of what I let you be in charge of.”
Madison rolled her eyes. “Oh my God, you know what I mean.”
“I do,” McKenzie said, stepping closer. “And you’re still my little sister. That part doesn’t change just because things got weird.”
Madison crossed her arms, but didn’t argue it.
McKenzie nudged her lightly with her shoulder. “I’ve got your back. Just don’t make me regret it.”
Madison huffed. “I won’t.” Letting a few seconds pass in silence “…and Dad still comes to me first.”
McKenzie smirked. “We’ll see.”
By the time Madison came back upstairs, some of the earlier edge had gone out of her.
Not all of it. She was still Madison. Still moving with that same easy certainty, still holding herself like the room and everything in it belonged to her. But there was something lighter in her now, a little less defensive, a little more settled.
McKenzie followed her in a step behind, and Greg looked up immediately from the shoe.
Madison noticed.
That alone seemed to please her.
She crossed the room without hurrying and stopped by the desk, looking down at the progress on her sneakers with open approval.
“Okay,” she said. “These actually look really good.”
Her tone was brighter than before. Not sugary. Not exaggerated. Just genuinely pleased in a way that made the compliment feel more intimate than it probably should have.
Cindy kept working.
Greg glanced briefly toward McKenzie, then back at Madison.
Madison caught the look, of course she did, but this time instead of tightening, she seemed almost to enjoy it.
She reached down and gave Greg a small, absentminded brush through the hair, the kind of touch that would have felt daughterly in another life and now landed somewhere stranger.
“See?” she said. “You survived.”
Greg gave her a tired look. “Barely.”
Madison snorted. “You’re so dramatic.”
But she was smiling when she said it.
McKenzie leaned against the doorframe for a second, watching the three of them, then looked at Madison. “You weren’t kidding. They’ve made real progress.”
Madison’s whole posture changed at that. Not dramatically, but enough for Greg to see the pride move through her.
“I know,” she said, with that quiet little satisfaction she got when something she’d built was recognized. “Mom’s doing a lot better. And Dad just…” She glanced down at him, the corner of her mouth lifting. “Needs consistency.”
The word landed differently now.
Less like accusation.
More like possession.
Madison sat down in the desk chair again, but this time she didn’t prop her feet up immediately. Instead she leaned forward slightly, folding her arms on the desk and bringing herself a little closer to Greg’s level.
“Anyway,” she said, like she was done being irritated at him now, “next time you have some giant emotional crisis, maybe don’t turn it into a whole thing and make me weirdly right.”
Greg blinked. “Make you right?”
“Yes.” Madison made a face. “About you needing direction.”
“That isn’t what happened.”
Madison shrugged. “Agree to disagree.”
The bratty ease of it was unmistakable. She wasn’t trying to win the argument anymore. She was trying to settle it by outlasting it.
McKenzie gave her a look. “Madison.”
“What?” Madison said, glancing back at her. “I’m being nice.”
Then, as if to prove it, she looked down at Greg again and softened her tone just a little.
“You can hang out with me tomorrow after school if you want,” she said. “If you’re normal.”
Greg stared at her for a second.
Not because the offer itself was shocking. Madison had done things like that before when they were alone. But because of the timing. Because it came right after whatever had just been decided downstairs. Because it felt less like an invitation than a reassertion.
Cindy heard it too.
Madison didn’t look at her.
That was part of what made the difference so obvious.
With Cindy, Madison’s attention always came with intention, with structure, with the sense that she was shaping something. With Greg, when she felt secure enough, there were moments like this instead. Still controlling. Still conditional. Still hers. But looser. Warmer. More recognizably Madison.
McKenzie pushed off the doorframe. “I’m going to shower,” she said. “Don’t keep them up forever.” McKenzie looked at Greg and gave him a slight finger wave to let him know she’ll make a point to see him as soon as she can. As that was there sign. As at the moment she wanted to let Madison have this moment and not step on toes.
Madison waved a hand. “I won’t.”
But she sounded faintly pleased by the instruction, too.
As if McKenzie saying it only confirmed that she was the one expected to decide when “forever” ended.
When the door closed again, Madison let out a small breath and leaned back in the chair.
Then she looked at Greg and grinned.
“Okay,” she said. “You’re definitely sitting with me for the next game.”
Greg lowered his eyes back to the shoe. “You’ve mentioned.”
“I’m reminding you,” Madison said. “Because apparently you need that. Old age and all.” she said teasingly.
He almost smiled.
Madison saw that too, and the look she gave him then was subtle but unmistakable. Pleased. Possessive. A little triumphant, though not in a cruel way.
Like something in the room had settled back where she wanted it.
Then she reached over, tapped the side of the shoe lightly with one finger, and said, “Keep going. I want to wear these tomorrow and feel emotionally supported.”
Cindy shut her eyes for a second.
Greg exhaled through his nose.
And above them both, Madison sat in her chair, bratty, reassured, and just backed enough by McKenzie to let herself be openly fond again.
Cindy kept her eyes on the shoe, but her mind had stopped following the motions of her hands.
She could feel it now.
Not just hear it. Not just suspect it.
Feel it.
This was what Madison was like with Greg when she felt secure.
Not softer exactly. Not in any way that reduced the hierarchy. She was still controlling. Still entitled. Still talking to him like someone who fully expected to be obeyed. But the stiffness went out of her. The deliberate structure loosened. She became more openly herself with him then, more visibly daughter than guardian even while never ceasing to be his guardian at all.
And it only seemed to happen when she felt backed.
That was the part Cindy was only just beginning to fully understand.
When Madison felt uncertain, when she felt watched, challenged, compared, or threatened by McKenzie’s presence in the dynamic, she held herself differently. Tighter. More formal. More inclined to pull Greg into the same hard-edged system she used on Cindy, as if consistency itself were something she had to prove.
But when she felt reassured, when she believed her place had been recognized and protected, something in her relaxed.
And then Greg got this version.
The bratty one. The casually affectionate one. The one who teased him, offered him time, brushed at his hair, called him dramatic, and folded control so neatly into warmth that the two could not be separated cleanly anymore.
Cindy hated how easy it was to see once she noticed it.
Madison had come back upstairs lighter. That much was obvious. Something downstairs with McKenzie had settled her. Validated her. Put her back in the emotional position she wanted to occupy. And because of that, Greg was now getting the version of her that emerged when she no longer felt she had to fight for space.
That left Cindy with something colder and harder to sit with than simple jealousy.
Madison was not merely treating them differently by instinct.
She was calibrating.
Not perfectly. Not coldly. Not with total self-awareness. But she was doing it all the same. Adjusting herself to the emotional state of the room. Tightening around Cindy when Cindy’s presence required the old doctrine. Loosening around Greg when McKenzie’s approval gave her permission to stop performing so much and simply enjoy what she had.
Cindy scrubbed at the sole harder than she needed to.
The cloth dragged uselessly over a spot already clean.
She thought, suddenly and unwillingly, of how many times she had once believed herself to be the only one in the house truly capable of reading emotional undercurrents. Of shaping a room. Of understanding what people needed and how to move them there.
Madison had learned more than she was supposed to.
Or maybe exactly what Cindy had taught, just changed enough to become something else in her hands.
Cindy risked a glance upward.
Madison was still lounging in the chair, phone in hand again, one foot bouncing lightly, the trace of satisfaction not fully gone from her face. She looked young. Entirely herself. A teenager in her bedroom, pleased with the shape of her evening.
And that was what made it so unbearable.
Because none of this felt like acting to Madison.
That was the worst truth of all.
She was not putting on a false self for Greg and a true one for Cindy, or the reverse. Both versions were real. Both belonged to her. She simply gave different pieces of herself to each of them depending on what she felt she needed to secure.
And Greg, poor Greg, seemed to take the warmer tone as relief.
Maybe it was relief.
Maybe Cindy would have felt it that way too, if it had ever been offered to her in the same shape.
But it wasn’t.
Because Cindy was not the father Madison wanted to keep.
She was the mother Madison wanted to honor.
That distinction settled inside Cindy with quiet, sickening clarity.
Greg got Madison’s possessiveness.
Cindy got her fidelity.
Greg got the daughter when the daughter felt safe.
Cindy got the doctrine, lovingly applied.
It was so perfectly unfair that it almost looped back into logic.
Of course this was how Madison would divide them.
Of course this was how Cindy’s own teachings would return to her: not merely through rules, but through differentiation. Through being categorized and handled according to what role Madison believed each of them was meant to fill.
A few feet away, Greg let out a tired breath and kept working.
Madison looked up at the sound and smiled at him without even thinking about it.
Small smile. Quick. Easy.
Then her eyes drifted to Cindy, and the smile changed.
Not disappearing.
Just reshaping itself into something more measured. More attentive. More deliberate.
There it was.
Cindy saw it happen in real time and looked back down immediately, as if refusing to witness it might somehow make it less true.
But she had seen enough.
And once seen, it could not be unseen.
Madison only became that open with Greg once she felt her claim on him had been affirmed.
Cindy, meanwhile, did not need to be claimed that way.
Cindy already belonged.
That was the difference.
And that was why Madison could afford to be affectionate with Greg in ways she never quite was with her.
Because affection, for Greg, was still part of possession.
For Cindy, possession was already complete.
Why do I feel
Like McKenzie is playing Madison?? Also this will push Greg and Cindy further apart, their marriage won’t last this! She’ll start to hate Greg
I love how quickly things change. Just yesterday everyone was talking about Madison manipulating McKenzie and now the inverse
It feels like a twist🤣🤣 McKenzie is playing chess and Madison playing checkers
darn you, you beat me to it!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol to be fair, yesterday made Kenzie seem really naive about what was oging on. today added just enough to make it seem like she’s playing chess while madison think’s she’s playing chess but is playing checkers.
I think this is more of Kenzie knowing what to say to madison to affirm her but also make her go easier on greg at the same time. she’s not outright dismissing Madison, but she’s affirming something different
That is true I had the benefit of writing these chapters together and could see them as one where you all see them as separate entities
I think Cindy and Greg are being treated as they treated Madison when they were big. Seems to make sense to me.
Just a quick question- how many chapters are we hoping to get in season 3?
1) “You’re in charge of what I let you be in charge of.” Damn McKenzie hitting where it hurts
2) “…and Dad still comes to me first.” – “We’ll see.” I’m Glad McKenzie isn’t giving in fully here
3) “See? You survived.” Oh, you guardians and your low bars
4) “You weren’t kidding. They’ve made real progress.” At the end of the day McKnezie isn’t that much better, she still supports treating Littles as lesser, just not the same way as Cindy and Madison
5) “Mom’s doing a lot better. And Dad just… Needs consistency.” Yeah, needs to be consistently with McKenzie.
6) “Madison sat down in the desk chair again, but this time she didn’t prop her feet up immediately.” The behaviour changed because Kezie is watching.
7) “next time you have some giant emotional crisis, maybe don’t turn it into a whole thing and make me weirdly right.” Or you could not push him into an emotional crisis
8) “But because of the timing. Because it came right after whatever had just been decided downstairs. Because it felt less like an invitation than a reassertion.” definitely all valid reasons to be suspicious.
9.1) “Don’t keep them up forever.” So I guess that’s as close to McKezie time as Greg’s getting tonight.
9.2) “As at the moment she wanted to let Madison have this moment and not step on toes.” Damn it McKenzie, you’re too nice.
10) “Keep going. I want to wear these tomorrow and feel emotionally supported.” I’m sure they’d like to feel supported emotionally, too, Madison.
11) “But the stiffness went out of her. The deliberate structure loosened. She became more openly herself with him then, more visibly daughter than guardian even while never ceasing to be his guardian at all.” so what you’re saying is Madison isn’t even consistent with him, but tells McKenzie he needs more consistency
12) “That left Cindy with something colder and harder to sit with than simple jealousy. Madison was not merely treating them differently by instinct. She was calibrating.” And whose fault could this possibly be, Cindy?
13) “she once believed herself to be the only one in the house truly capable of reading emotional undercurrents. Of shaping a room. Of understanding what people needed and how to move them there.” A lot of women believe that about themselves
14) “Because Cindy was not the father Madison wanted to keep. She was the mother Madison wanted to honor” Cindy really did dig her own grave here
15) “Greg got Madison’s possessiveness. Cindy got her fidelity. Greg got the daughter when the daughter felt safe. Cindy got the doctrine, lovingly applied.” Gred deserves better, Cindy doesn’t
16) “A few feet away, Greg let out a tired breath and kept working” Feet not inches? Damn, how big are these shoes?
17) “And that was why Madison could afford to be affectionate with Greg in ways she never quite was with her. Because affection, for Greg, was still part of possession. For Cindy, possession was already complete.” Does that mean Madison would be less affectionate with Greg if she completed Greg’s possession?
4) A) At the end of the day, both girls see their parents as pets to be taken care of and protected, not equal by any stretch. The irony is Madison is the better guardian for the parents because she is committed to bonding and taking care of them where I don’t get that from Kenz.
B)That is not the world they live in & littles body’s are not equal, they are support people that need a bond.
0) Cindy is quite insightful regarding Madison right now. Can she leverage that somehow? If so, she will need Greg.
1-2) McKenzie knows Madison, and honestly this is typical big sister to little sister attitude.
4) Yeah, I was taken aback by her remark. I thought better of her. (Maybe, just maybe, she was saying that for Madison’s benefit).
5) Madison is just pressing her point that she made earlier when talking to McKenzie.
9) Could be she is trying to soften her up, and keep her currently kind demeanor towards Greg.
10) Her earlier comment led me to believe they had finished.
11) Ha Ha! 😆
12 -13) I don’t know, this could be an inherited trait.
14) And she knows it!
15) At some point, Cindy deserves forgiveness. I’m not sure where/when that point is.
16) Plus there is probably a bit of an emotional aspect to that.
17) I think Madison would be disappointed if/when Greg becomes a thrall.
17) No, because Madison’s relationship with Greg is inherently different then it is with Cindy.
Madison feels beholden to use cindys teachings with Cindy. She struggles with the seperation of church and state as she would be different if she had a different little. As if cindy wasn’t her mom she would never taken Cindy.
She felt obligated to take Cindy in more ways than one. Greg is stuck because Madison tries to give him more but doesnt know how to do it without breaking construct of what she is doign to honor Cindy.
If Greg was fully Madison’s she would feel less pressure to exert control as she wouldnt feel like he was going to be taken away as she has always felt she was in 2nd place in gregs love to McKenzie even though he loves both of them equally Madison does not feel it.
16) miles along aparently.
15) Cindy ruined little rights for an entire country. she deserves nothing.
14) yup, madison is giving cindy exactly what she preached.
13) true, although cindy helping shape hte entire political landscape of legal view, and rights of how entire nation and its allies view littles does put her in a category above most women.
12) Its almost like the person to blame might be in the room with us.
11) no because its dependent partially on circumstance of McKenzie. if she feels threatened she will lose greg she is differnt but thats true of anyone. if they feel threatened or that they are at risk of losing something important most people arent going to be oh well lets keep business as usual.
This doesnt mean her actions are right but it does make them human.
10) They could as her happiness could result in little pets. Plus atleast in gregs case seeing madison happy would make him happy. As he does want his daughters to be happy as any parent does.
If he can create that happiness then it would be rewarding. Not saying he it means he want to be ashoe cleaner forever. but there are silver linings and things to hold onto that would make him happy seeing madison happy.
As while to the reader its just madison. To greg it will awlays be his little girl and that inhrently makes it different for him and always will.
9.2) She is but I also wanted to keep that triat of her.As there are those people who are genuinely nice and try to do the right thing and take the high road. Not that it works out for them always but its who she is.
9.1) Tonight? yes.
8) yup, tiny lethal would be very suspicious.
7) That seems very unlikely. Emotional crisis are strong in this family.
6) She feels less in control when Mckenzie is around as seh is less in control. Good eye.
5) lol, madison would disagree.
4) Well shes differnt i dont know about better. She does live in that world and live within thsoe soceital beliefs. As while there are those who are very divergent just like in reality most people fall somewhere within the society norms even if it is a extreme.
Mckenize believes littles should have more rights and freedoms then her mom and beleives they deserve differnt treatment. But she isnt as Sara seaon 1 smallara would say a “Little Humper”
3) some could view it as a high bar. Low is the new high as they say.
2) The battle for Greg continues.
1) yup laying down the law. putting madison in her place. you love to see it.
17) I See
16) lol
13) or below
11) I’m not saying she’s inhuman, I’m just amused at the mild hypocrisy. Though Madison getting worse around McKenzie would further push Greg to his better child.
10) Yeah, but ultimately Greg shouldn’t need to sacrifice his happiness for hers.
9.2) Great for Madison, not for Greg.
9.1) Damn
8) Don’t shrink me into this.
5) Then she’d be wrong.
4) I think y issue was I was viewing her as an anti-Madison.
A, that was season/day 3. B, the quote was ‘Underbred Humper’. C, I think current Sara would still openly say that.
2) May the best daughter win
1) Yes, I does.
A) I just read this chapter again and it makes me sad for Greg and Cindy,
B) I’m not sure how they don’t hide in their habitat depressed from losing their daughters respect being looked at as a burden that someone HAS TO take care of.
C) I know they were trying to be strong for their daughters but at this point I don’t think they care about what their parents act like other than littles they own to take care of. I just don’t sense the family closeness’s.
I completely agree with you. Parents have been reduced to slaves, objects, and property at this point. Family has been gone for a long time. Back in the first or second installment (I can’t remember exactly), Mackenzie told Greg that she didn’t want to ruin her relationship with her only remaining family member, Madison, because of them. So, she hasn’t considered them family for a long time. In fact, there are two families living in the house now: Mackenzie and Madison, and Greg and Cindy. And one of them, Greg and Cindy, is in the process of falling apart. It’s very sad; the entire family has essentially betrayed Cindy.
It’s all because of Cindy’s teachings/viewpoints and how she hammered them into Madison.
I don’t know, did she really hammer it in? Madison herself likes this attitude towards the Littles. She’s practically formed a clique of friends like her who have thoroughly absorbed Cindy’s teachings. Mackenzie also supports the general vision for the Littles. Greg simply didn’t care until it affected him. Although Cindy was a champion of minimizing the Littles’ rights, to her daughters she was a mother – loving, caring, and supportive, albeit strict. And she could have simply expected a normal, loving attitude in this situation. If only her daughters weren’t such beasts. And yes, she is a Little, but first and foremost she is their mother – the person who gave them life, raised them, cared for them, and protected them. And such gratitude is disgusting. And these two assholes still live in her house and on her savings. Cindy certainly messed up her teachings, but she didn’t come up with the idea that the Littles aren’t people. She is simply a victim of government propaganda.
One theme of the story that has been present is Madison does treat Cindy specifically how she Cindy believed. So she is mimicking Cindys style and refining some things and she may alter a few things here and there but by and large its cindy’s belief system.
She could treat other littles different as she wouldnt be beholden to wanting to honor her mothers legacy.
Another part I feel like you didnt bring up is societally speaking littles aren’t people. There are those who may think they deserve more rights. there may be pockets those who feel different to varying degrees. Some believe in equality. But those are the minority.
We would be talking about 80% or more agree littles aren’t people. You get a discrepancy in the rights they should have or whether they agree with the government views which are more in line with cindy’s views as she helped put them there.
They live in her house why? CIndy put made sure people in power agreed and put in laws into place that littles cant own property. She campaigned and fundraised and supported politicians with thsoe beliefs and used her platform to grow and make millions upon millions of others agree with that.
Madison and McKenize are using the system as it was created and setup by Cindy.
Cindy is the one who set out teh belief htat when a person turns into a little their humanity dies and the family should mourn the loss of their loved ones as the little versions are lesser versions and can never be what they were as people.
that was cindy who pushed that. who endorsed that. who created that and why its believed by mllions of people and a very real thing in society.
Cindy advocated and pushed for 401k’s and assests be given to the guardian along with the debt. That was people cindy campaigned for and put into power.
Cindy is the one who alienated Mckenzie’s beliefs tore them down and made is so mckenzie felt it was impossible to fight and share her opinions with her mother so she didnt say anything or went along.
Cindy didnt just minmize her rights she put into play and was catalyst for much of why society is the way it is. She got the US president into power who doesnt believe litltes are anyhting more then animals as thats what she believed. Life begins at 18 inches was very real to them, to cindy, to those people.
CIndy brought into the school system teaching kids in public school what littles are and hwo they are lesser. She ensured kids growing up were framed into thinking they are naturallay less then at the earliest stages of chlldhood development. Creating a culture that inherently justifies her beliefs.
None of that is the fault of Madison or McKenzie. They live in a world and society with these laws, with these rules, with these beliefs and these beliefs are normalized.
Madison is caring for Cindy. she is protecting her, She took Cindy in. As if cindy wasn’t her mother Madison wouldn’t even taken her. Madison is on the record for wanting a japanese little, a female. That is what she specifically wants. She only took Cindy because it’s her mom. She took Greg because it’s her dad.
A) I look at the world through Sara and Jordans eyes and I think if Madison can get to that point with her dad then I think they will be ok. I like that littles and their owners don’t care about being Naked because a little is a support person and needs to be able to crawl all over their guardians body to rub, itch, or fix anything/anywhere on them. I think Greg could ask to get trained on helping Madison with make up stuff like Jordan does also.
B) I think Cindy is already tamed and bonded and I think Madison and Kenz should work to have her love her little self not hate being a little.
C) I think Jordans view of embracing being a little is very healthy and I hope Jordan could use his story on streaming to help others littles.
D) I have to admit I am into open and bonded guardian and little relationships like Sara and Jordan even though I still think Jordan gets weird for no reason still lol.
By the way, I’ve been wondering for a long time why they still allow their daughters to treat them like this, still waiting for changes, but they already see that there will be no changes for the better (for them), and certainly not for Cindy. And yes, they are helpless compared to their daughters physically, the law is on their daughters’ side, etc., but why do they tolerate such a cruel attitude towards themselves? They could have simply stopped communicating with Madison and Mackenzie, just silently ignored them until they were called Mom and Dad (no Cindy and Greg), called their daughters simply by their first names without any titles like “Mistress,” and yes, the collar would choke them, and who cares (he passed out from suffocation – came to and started all over again), rights and freedoms must be fought for – they don’t come easy. At worst, they would have refused food and water; they wouldn’t be able to force-feed them anyway. Of course, I understand that they are parents and do not want to traumatize their children in this way, but apparently the children have not cared about their parents for a long time; for them, they are just slaves.
I agree with take, when it was clear both the daughters treated them as pets and not parents then why comply.
And again, Cindy knows her teachings inside and out; she could easily resist them. She’s an educated adult with life experience her daughters can only dream of. Especially since both of these brats think they’ve long been smarter than their parents and know the world better, something they’ve smugly stated more than once. 🙂 They’re unstable teenagers; it’s no problem for adults to crack them (especially their parents, who know their strengths and weaknesses inside and out). The easiest way out is complete ignorance and a refusal to interact until they all get together and discuss their situation. Everything could have been resolved through discussion; while that possibility still exists, it’s fading with each passing day. Even their parents won’t be able to forgive these brats for certain things. More accurately, they’ll forgive, but they’ll never forget. And this will remain between them for the rest of their lives. And in five or ten years, these grown-up brats will realize what they did, but it will be too late. And this will stay with them for the rest of their lives. Although, judging by their behavior, they might not understand.
As an old Jewish man who lived near my parents once said, “I love my grandchildren so much that they will take revenge on my children.” 🙂
Although, again, I understand that the story is written, and written as the author wants and sees it; after all, it’s his world. 🙂 Without the drama and the whirlwind of emotions, it wouldn’t be interesting. 🙂
I hate to be the one to shoot down this idea of non-compliance, but back in Season 2 Episode 3, Madison threatens to send Cindy to “Little Training” and reminds Cindy that Cindy’s old friend Nancy Archer is an instructor and maybe she could be the one to train her. Cindy reacted in a panic.
I could see McKenzie stepping in and putting a stop to that idea, but then again I could see Madison talking her into it.
Anything is possible, but on the other hand, what could they do to her that was so terrible that her daughters didn’t? Beat her like they’d snap her three times? Starve and dehydrate her? Choke collars? Nancy Archer works at Little Mart, that’s Generitech, I don’t think they abuse the Littles there. Cindy was mostly afraid of being seen by her former friends and colleagues. You get used to the pain. You can intimidate up to a point, and then either kill or stop. If she’s deemed intractable, will they take her away from her daughters and destroy her? Or put her in some institution. It’s really up to Cindy to decide what she’s willing to do and to what extent. Or just give in and remain a slave to her daughters. Although, looking at Cindy, it’s clear that the anger and rage are building up inside her, and it’s only a matter of time before it all comes out. She might even lose her mind and decide to harm herself out of helplessness and hopelessness, especially seeing how much better Madison’s sisters and friends treat Greg and how he distances himself from her in hopes of winning her sisters’ favor. This could drive her to the breaking point, effectively leaving her alone against everyone. On the other hand, she could simply fall into depression and refuse any contact or submission, as if to say, “Do what you want.”
And by the way, I was wondering: where exactly are Cindy and Greg’s friends, parents, or relatives? Are they orphans? It’s not a given that his or her parents share Cindy’s views on the Littles. They could influence the sisters.
Although, if Mackenzie is Madison’s guardian, does that mean they don’t have any adult relatives?
Good point about Archer being at Little Mart. But if there were no holds barred, I could see a psychological method(s) being used to train and brainwash them. Look how Trina got trained. She is a Little and an advocate for that way of life. I agree pain is not the way to go, it would have to be a brainwash technique.
Good question about friends and relatives.
McKenzie as Madison’s guardian (boy the term guardian takes on another meaning in this story), insinuates that their grandparents, aunts and uncles probably do not exist.
I don’t know where the story is going, but I think the moment that Cindy is “broken”, then that would effectively be the end of the story.
You correct. If Cindy is effectively broken, or Greg is broken. The next thing you see would be “the end” and there would just never be any Madison’s World again.
At least not from me. If someone wanted to write a fan fictio of it I wouldnt stand in their way. That just not a story i have any interest in telling.
As far as Nancy Archer goes. The training is held at little mart. The obedience training is mandated by the government in what is taught. Techniques, how things are done. The obedience training is not a requirement but if you are taking it then you are legally required to A. follow the rules when teaching and then B. you are expected once trained to uphold it.
Kind of like if you dont knwo cpr and you try to give someone CPR you aren’t liably responsible for what happens. But if you are trained and know what to do. You open yourself up to liablities as you are trained at that point.
Little training is the same way. Cindy knows this so she doesn’t want to go to little training as a little. As its not little training by generitech. Its government approved obedience training meant to bring littles to heel.
They could do that but as i’ve said to washnowghost before. Everyhting your talking about would just be the end.
As lets play that out.
Madison and Mckenzie starve there parents and dont provide water as punishment until they break. After a few days they would be very weak.
The kids could just use water dropper and put a droplet of water over htem to give them enough water to sustain them and not die but not so much they would ever not feel thirsty. Because of their size they would be forced to intake water at that point.
So we have nuetralized the ability for htem to die by lack of water. Actual starvation takes a long time and the person also has to want to die otherwise even a pellets being available eventually they would just give in and eat.
Now assuming they dont they they could use IV like fluid in a droplet to force enough into the bodies so they wouldnt die.
they cold also take them toa vet to force nutrition into them.
They could easily provide food so the parents wouldnt die or starve.
So then you would just be reading endless days about htem being very thirsty and very hungry not able to move well but never getting into a state they actually die.
The parents would be torturing themselves for what could easily be a 100 years and have nothing to show for it.
the girls still go to school. life still goes on and its just not intresting.
While i wouldnt say no one wants to read that. I dont think many would.
Any time you logic a story to hard, or a movie to hard you effectively ruin the story.
Another leading reason Cindy doesnt fight for little rights is even now she doesnt believe littles should have these rights. She believes she should get special priviledges. that she should get exceptions. She things this is a fluke its not the norm.
So none of this truly changes in her heart of hearts what she thinks of littles. They are still animals. they are stll beneath her. she is just stuck in some kind of fluke and she feels because this is all some kind of accident that she should be treated different.
If you really want to get serious thoughts. What do you think would have happened if Cindy was immune and just greg got Smallara. do you htink cindy is changing anything she believes for greg?
That was a good view lol. I am a very pro everyone loving each other but that is boring lol.
I would have thought Cindy had changed her mind about rights. That is an interesting point to know about her. Stubborn to the end, or at least a true believer.
I mentioned this before, but after your explanation above (different comment) where you list all the things Cindy did politically, I would think that there would be much public interest in her fate.
Not sure if it would interest you, but a story line about Archer’s training might be interesting. Or a backstory on Trina.
Also, some flashbacks on Greg and Cindy might add more depth to Madison’s and Mackenzie’s current actions, plus it might enable you to create scenarios that would not have made sense otherwise.
I do plan on doing a “Brooklyn’s World” similar ot Evan’s World that would obviously have Trina details and more information.
There is interest. you hear a bit about it in this season.
Flashbacks is a good idea. I do agree with you on that one. I will probably utilize that.
Cindy’s friend i never really created beyond what you saw in the story as she only existed the threat. I would never say never but it would be awhile before that happened as I have another story I want to tell after this one. Its Madison’s world adjacent
I like the idea of Madison showing all the places that Cindy talked about treating littles poorly like streaming online and show off bonded and docile Cindy and have her talk about her nicer training treating littles with care and bonding so they a mellow and are happy listening like Cindy lol
Brooklyn’s World sounds like a great way to expand her character.
Greg Madison and Madison’s girlfriends barefoot slave🦶🦶 has a nice ring to it💯